the syrian government, for its part, is saying they did not do this. they say this was the work of terrorists. that's the term they use for opposition forces, for rebel forces in syria. they say that, in fact, this town was attacked, that that's how this bakery was shelled, and they say that then they came in and intervened at the behest of the members of the town there. there is some more that we need to tell you about. lakhdar brahimi, the joint u.n. arab league envoy to syria, he went to syria yesterday and spoke to bashar al assad trying to forge a path towards peace. here's more what he told reporters about what he spoke to president bashar al assad about. >> translator: we have exchanged opinions about the possible steps that can be taken in the future. the syrian president spoke about his view of the situation. i also talked about the meetings i have had abroad in several cities with various officials in the region and outside the region. i also talked about which steps would i say are appropriate to be taken to help the syrian people to get out